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04-15-2007, 05:06 PM
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Juried Member
Joined: May 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 281
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Baby Steps
Patt, would it be possible to show her what you have done so far, (DON'T OFFER ANY OF YOUR OWN COMMENTS!) telling her that you want to be sure you are on the "right track" with her expecttions? Be prepared to refund her deposit if she doesn't appreciate them. Just taking 1 baby step could alleviate all the weight. There's always a reason for a block like that; we just aren't always conscious of what it is because it gets jumbled up with other things. I suspect that the 50 lb. sack of fertilizer is a whole lot lighter and sweeter smelling than the way that you feel about this commission. If your client doesn't like the second two portraits, get your check book out and write her a check. Bingo! You're free. No commission check is worth the price of that 50 lb. sack you've been wearing. You can tell her that even good photos don't always make great paintings. It is always best to take your own photos (providing the subjects are ALIVE as they wouldn't look too lovely after having been dug up!). Quite honestly, the times that I get into the most "fertilizer" and have to go whining for help is when the source material is poor and I'm trying to change what I see. My wonderful teacher (Chris Saper) has written a mantra for me and made me repeat it. It has just a little to do with never using poor resource material??? Do I always observe it? No, but everytime I don't I sure know she is right.
Go for it. You can do it.
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04-15-2007, 06:13 PM
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'06 Artists Mag Finalist, '07 Artists Mag Finalist, ArtKudos Merit Award Winner '08
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: U.K.
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Dear Patt
This has happened to me a number of times. The first time I was commissioned to paint someone's children. When I took my painting to show the parents at the first stage of completion the children told me that they didn't like the paintings, that they were too cartoony, that I should paint like a certain person whose painting they had up in the living room, and that they didn't want portraits painted of themselves anyway. The parents didn't stop the children from saying these insensitive and insulting things, but just smiled and sent me away to try again. After a couple of times trying to keep my temper as a professional should, I told them that this was the way I painted, and that if they wanted the painting to look like someone else's they should have hired that artist (at a considerably higher price than I was charging). In the end they did accept the portraits and did pay me, but it was extremely difficult to complete those portraits, feeling animosity towards the clients above having to paint in way that was almost totally not my own.
It just not worth painting in a way that makes you unhappy, bored or frustrated. I think the best thing to do is to show the client what you have done and, as Carol said, don't offer any comment and certainly don't apologise for anything. It's not a photograph, after all, and it is as much about the artist as it is about the sitter, and the client HAS to allow for your interpretations of what you see i.e your personal vision. This is where you are stuck - you are not allowing yourself to see how you see and are getting lost in trying to understand how the client wants things done. I think one of the most important things in having commissions is to ensure you get the respect you deserve from your clients. You are not building them a house, or decorating a room. They are commissioning a valuable, unique artwork, an expression of passion and life. They must know this.
Why don't you post what you have done with the reference photos. I am sure you will get a lot of valuable feedback from the forum and help rebuild your confidence in yourself. I for one would be very interested to see what you've done.
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04-15-2007, 09:20 PM
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Juried Member Finalist, Int'l Salon 2006
Joined: Feb 2004
Location: Singapore
Posts: 324
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Clients always want the last say in things
Hi Patt,
I suddenly got a flashback for myself after reading your problem with your client. I guess everyone's had their share of runs with "picky people". I'm confident you're good in what you're doing, and that's not where the issue lies.
The real problem is with our clients, who wants a final say to things. I had two recent comissions, and both of them did that on me! And guess what, both of them had me to "make that little 'perfect adjustment'" (the earlier commission had me travel all the way down to the gallery in a cab, in my crutches!)
The thing is, i didn't do anything (though i didn't say that to my clients and not even to my gallery owner), just a little action on the canvas/ drawing. And they tell me "THAT'S IT!!"
The very fact is that they want you to make the correction THE WAY THEY WANT IT, PRONTO. And i realised these people tend to be either power-people or control freaks. So don't let them bog you down because of what they say. Emotionally take a step outside and be professional. If they want you to 'conjure up the magic', then wave that brush, maestro!
Give them the 'rush feeling' of being in control of you - for once in their lives.
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04-15-2007, 10:39 PM
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Juried Member
Joined: May 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 281
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Conjure up your own magic!
If they want you to 'conjure up the magic', then wave that brush, maestro!
Give them the 'rush feeling' of being in control of you - for once in their lives.  [/QUOTE]
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MARCUS, YOU ARE BRILLIANT! Showmanship may be the answer to that client of an all too familiar breed. Magic! Wave the brush. I truly will remember that. Thanks for your wisdom.
I cannot help to relate to this story. Upon receipt, a recent commission found a "spot" that had to be viewed with a MAGNIFYING glass. The painting was returned. It happened to be a bubble from Liquin. Yes, it took a magnifying glass to see it. Initially that was the only thing verbalized. Oh, yes, later I heard that the portrait was "lovely." I guess we need to recall that portraiture is a BUSINESS and that we need to separate ourselves from the personal part.
Got the painting back, took a thumbnail to the bubble visible only outside in the AZ sunlight, flicked if off and revarnished that pinhead spot. Yes, magic. And all with a smile. A second commission was forthcoming. Moral: Don't burn bridges or you could be on the part that hits the water.
No, I'm not related to Aesop.
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04-16-2007, 10:39 AM
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CAFE & BUSINESS MODERATOR SOG Member FT Professional
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
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some of the worst photos ever that she had given me. ( I know, I know, I needed to refuse the photos and for that I am guilty .)
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You answered your own question here, I think. Thank her for commissioning you but let her know you can't make a painting that you can be proud of from these photos .... and then end the contract (returning whatever payment seems appropriate). No one will be happy if you keep beating this dead horse.
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04-16-2007, 02:50 PM
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Juried Member PT 5+ years
Joined: Nov 2001
Location: Stillwater, MN
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