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05-06-2007, 12:30 PM
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Tricia,
I neglected to mention how beautiful and beautifully done, the seated figure's head is.
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05-06-2007, 05:12 PM
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Location: Byron Bay, Australia
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Thank you Sharon, These are excellent points to think about next time. Your chosen examples too, are most helpful in getting your point across. Without them, i may not have completely understood your meaning.
Yes, my model was a beautiful young woman from India. She was an absolute delight to paint.
Thanks again. Most appeciated.
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05-06-2007, 09:03 PM
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There is fortunately a revival of classical painting and drawing techniques. However, color has become a stepchild, it is simply added to form. Color harmonies are little understood and utilized today, many paintings are monochromatic . That is why, under the new influence of the beautiful and colorful Asian prints, clothing, fans etc. the Impressionists broke loose from form in the 19th century. In Asian art, since form was not paramount or important, color became very sophisticated. Degas, Manet, Monet, Whistler, Frieseke, Klimt to name a few came under it's spell.
If your painting has an all over color theme, everything will be harmonious. Study Japanese and Chinese art for color ideas, the Europeans of the 19th century did. Degas did some wonderful bathtub scenes that were radiant.
The internet is a great source for research on color studies. Work up small paintings to reflect the various color harmonies referenced on the color wheel.
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05-07-2007, 05:41 AM
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Thanks again Sharon. Colour is on my very long list of things to learn. Alas, along with composition and more.
Every painting i do, reminds me of what i do not yet know about painting.
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05-07-2007, 09:32 AM
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What strikes me the most about the figures here is they seem to be lit by an artificial light. That's not such a problem with the seated figure, but it's a bit jarring for those placed in an outdoor setting, especially for the one in the night landscape. I'd excpect it to be lit by moon or star light. The result seems as if the outdoor scenes are stage back drops, which can be an interesting idea, but it needs to be intentional. Sharon mentioned Manet, and if you look at some of his paintings, they also sometimes appear to be figures on a stage.
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05-07-2007, 03:06 PM
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Manet set up stage sets in his studio. "The Bar at the Folies Bergere " was done like that. He had a very specific reason to do so. Influenced by the flatness and simple elegant shapes of Asian art, he wanted to experiment with that effect in his art so he had his figures directly lit by the light thus reducing the form. He was breaking from the traditional realism of the French Salon. It was a brilliant move.
To get the best effect of skin-tones in a setting you have to paint the figure from life. So much subtle color is lost any other way.
Bougereau as well as many other realistic figurative painters of that era has glass houses, like green houses, built outside.
Tricia,
I think this is a wonderful concept. It is so refreshing to see someone painting with actual ideas, avoiding the trite. It is not easy to do and I applaud you for it. Color was the most difficult thing for me also.
It seems to me that the figure in the middle painting could be lit by moonglow.
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05-07-2007, 05:44 PM
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Location: Byron Bay, Australia
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Thanks David & Sharon.
Some of my ideas are a bit too weird for life painting. Could you imagine any model holding any of those poses for any length of time.?
With the seated pose, my model was still in the country, so i could get her back near the end for some life sessions. Then she returned to India. She was however lit by natural light in all poses.
With the outdoor ones, the setting is a separate reference, with a standin model for perspective.
For this series, i made a conscious decision not to ask for guidance during my thought process. I didn't want my vision to be influenced as it often is.
And yes Sharon, as i was painting the earth pose, she indeed seemed bathed in moon glow, so i ran with that.
I do wish to allow myself to move outside the traditional box, even though that might not be acceptable to the purists. Having said that, i think i would be more sucessful if i know and understand the rules before i decide to break them.
Sharon, i am delighted that you appreciate my venture.
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05-07-2007, 08:49 PM
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Color Harmony a la Sharon
"If your painting has an all over color theme, everything will be harmonious. Study Japanese and Chinese art for color ideas, the Europeans of the 19th century did. Degas did some wonderful bathtub scenes that were radiant."
Sharon, what I heard about your Scottsdale Artists' workshop was that you did an incredible job teaching everything - especially color. You practice what you preach. The paintings on your website exhibit the perfection of your color expertise. I truly hope you will repeat your workshop at SAS next year.
PS I will follow your advice for artists to study. Any special books that you recommend? (Can't buy them all.....)
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