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05-25-2007, 07:45 AM
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Steve,
Can you post the Amazon French site please. I can stumble through it, as a matter of fact it would give me a great chance to brush up on my French.
I also bumbled through, even though I went briefly to The Boston Museum School, a waste of my time and my parents money.
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05-25-2007, 09:55 AM
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Thanks Mischa. So, you're saying the text is an integral part? Would I miss much of the instruction if I got the book just for the drawings?
Sharon, here's the link: [url]http://www.amazon.fr/Charles-Bargue-Jean-L
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05-25-2007, 10:05 AM
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Craig,
De remerciement si beaucoup!
There are great translation sites on the web if you get stuck!
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05-25-2007, 10:21 AM
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Je vous en prie!
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05-25-2007, 02:11 PM
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When I approached my first Bargue drawing I thought it would be a breeze to do. Now I look at the Bargue drawings from a different vantage point from a point of relative understanding. Unless a individual draws each and every drawing to absolute perfection, copy machine errors not included, one has no understanding of the value in the plates. After just copying five in progression of difficulty but to perfection one barely begins to understand the value of the other plates.
Each has the right to give ones opinion from what ever vantage point one stands but unless one has experienced these drawings as I describe they have no clue but only a opinion. It would be a sad fact to way someones future based only on opinions. As we all know a foundation built on a rock will stand the test of time but a foundation built on sand, it is simple to figure out.
Narvin has a point about whether there were written instructions with the plates. How one uses the drawings is another good point but whether Bargue intended them to be used this way or that way is a long winded story. I think the best way to find out is to look at the results. The students, the work, speaks loud and clear.
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05-25-2007, 03:00 PM
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Mischa,
I bet you can read French anyway. Thank-you for that information.
Marvin, I appreciate the humbleness of your opinion, but unless you are a freak of nature and the worlds oldest living artist, you would not be old enough to be privvy to that information.
The chain was broken and all we can do is somehow to the best of our collective knowledge, reassemble it and respect others attempts to interpret it.
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09-21-2007, 12:42 AM
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BOARD ADVISOR SOG Member FT Professional
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I continue to teach several student interns and apprentices. They work along side me three days a week and are all low maintenance. I love it when they are here, and just when I want some time alone, they are not here. It is a near perfect system.
Thanks to them, my life is more tidy. Today they washed windows. They also drew and painted a little.
I haven't taken any photos of the studio in months. I remembered to do so today and I'm going to post the results now.
Emily, who has been with me since February, is now painting. However, I'm starting my image posts with one of her recent drawings, a very accurate head in Nupastel.
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05-25-2007, 12:35 PM
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I think it is safe to say that the drawings alone are worth the purchase.
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05-25-2007, 01:38 PM
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SOG Member FT Professional '04 Merit Award PSA '04 Best Portfolio PSA '03 Honors Artists Magazine '01 Second Prize ASOPA Perm. Collection- Ntl. Portrait Gallery Perm. Collection- Met Leads Workshops
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Proper usage varies with intent
The original plates came with no instruction. What is included in the book is the opinion of a teaching artist. Personall I disagree with the way the plates are being used. I think they were designed to get people to see objectively and IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, copying them literally is not how Bargue and Gerome (who was Bargue's teacher and the initiator of the concept) intended them to be used. My opinion reflects only my ideas and should be considered as such when being weighed.
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